Thursday, December 26, 2013

The Mississippi Rose Law Firm?

Someone did some oppo-research on Butler Snow and fed it to Cottonmouth.  The Democrat website published a little article this week on Butler Snow and its Republican connections.


It seems Mr. Ryan Brown is shocked, shocked, mind you, that a lobbying firm (Butler Snow has a "government relations" division or whatever they call political connections now) might actually hire people who worked in state government.  Let's see Mr. Brown show some real balls and start talking about state bond work and Tim Ford. 

Then there is Walker Jones.  I am much less outraged about this than is Mr. Brown, or I should say, mine is less selective.  I'll put it this way: if Walker Jones came calling and offered Mr. Brown a nice fat salary for a lobbying or "government relations" job, I seriously doubt he would say no to them.  I will be even more surprised if he publishes a similar piece about Democrats.  As long as politics exists, there will also exist firms who hire people based on their "connections" to the rulers in power.  It's called human nature and that is the way the world works. Post about Butler Snow.

27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Butler Snow should be lauded for thriving in a really bad legal economy in Mississippi. They didn't invent politics. Why should their business model ignore it?

Anonymous said...

Much more interested in your statement regarding "'connections' to the RULERS (emphasis added) in power." Offhand remark?

Kingfish said...

Meant it as a general term. Meant it regardless of state, city, county, or form of government. Don't read too much into it. They are rulers, just elected ones with constitutionally limited powers.

Anonymous said...

It's not so much that it's bad, you're right, it happens in a democracy. My concern is the dumbing down of the whole process in terms of people. You can love him or hate him or not care, but you can't deny Haley is a pro. Just about everyone else on the list is well, not! Have you ever worked with any of these people? Paul Hurst? come on. Sidney Allen? you've got to be kidding. This Trey Hairston guy literally was telling people that he was trying to build a client base while he was in government and apparently did. He used to work for Tim Ford. Balch and Bingham is trying to do the same thing, they're just not as connected. The problem is it's become sort of a little frat with these younger ones who trail around Haley, Barry Canada, Charlie Williams Don Clark and pick up table scraps. Seriously, none of them have EVER done anything on their own and probably never will but because they are good little lap dogs, will make a nice living in Mississippi, STILL the poorest state in America. This is what should upset people, not that there's politics here.

Anonymous said...

Don't get them draws in a wad, Kinfish ~ Butler Snow has every intention of adding a handful of Dems in the second wave after the first of the year. I have it on good authority they are currently vetting Horhn and Cecil. It takes longer to vet a dem since they don't have references other than goofy-Rickey Cole.

Anonymous said...

At least they are transparent about it.

Anonymous said...

rumor is: not long ago, BS laid off a lot of people, including associate attorneys. their legal business had declined just as every other firm. those laid off however, apparently had no connection to the "government affairs" section, mostly insurance defense folks. a lot of these folks were told they would get "contract" work without benefits as work was available. after a few months, at least one person I know of, an attorney, got none and now works for state government.

Anonymous said...

Is Lance Bonner still with the firm?

Anonymous said...

11:36,

Your comment has me thinking that Butler Snow has some leaders who specialize in marketing legal services. If they laid off a chunk of attorneys who practiced insurance defense (thanks in part to tort reform maybe?) and started focusing on government work, then that tells me they are responsive to a changing marketplace. What is puzzling is the London branch. What do they see shaking over in Europe, London specifically, that they need to focus resources across the pond? Forget what the press release said, that's never the full story. I could go tin foil hat and say it might be connected to the City of London and its crazy financial influence, but that's just fun guessing on my part.

Anonymous said...

@10:04 has it right. The only thing really amiss is the overpaid no-talent ass clowns (yeah, I watched Office Space over Christmas) who manage to make a career out of essentially walking around holding on to Haley, et al.'s inside-out pocket. On the other hand, everyone who matters knows that's all they're doing, so at least you know the price of their dignity.

Anonymous said...

good point 2:08. they follow the money...

Anonymous said...

"....responding to a changing marketplace." What a friggin' concept. People with a GED understand that workplace dynamic.

Anonymous said...

Oh good grief, 3:19. How many lawyers do you know that are marketers first and attorneys second? That's the point. Butler Snow isn't your typical law firm. They bill differently and as 3:07 so eloquently put it, they follow the money.

Put it this way. Some of the lawyers that they have put in leadership positions I wouldn't want representing me in court or conference rooms. I would, however, give serious thought to them advising on what to say in a sound room.

Anonymous said...

This is the same law firm that hired an ex-Gov that pardoned 4 murderers and bought cars for to of them and said their crimes were "crimes of passion". Also they have a CEO who is about to be indicted for the murder of his daughter. Something is very wrong with this group.

Anonymous said...

Wake up, Wake up, smell the "money" where has everyone been.. . . . .
1. The Butler Snow Taj Mahal was built with Go-Zone Katrina money.. (Katrina did severe damage to the Renaissance... don't you remember?)

2. "I beg your pardon" guvnah was in touch with his Washington pals, 43 and the Shaw group before Katrina ever hit shore lining up tax credits which he passed on to Dapper Don and his crew...

3. Butler Snow is if anything loyal to those who feather the firm's largesse... hence the long list of employees to whom they are beholding...

4. Now what role Flipper Fhil will play upon his exit from the public payroll is a happening in the making... He'll probably settle for a pair of boots at Christmas and a lifetime supply of hairspray...

5. Never before has anyone gained so much influence and made so much money with a few $200.00 checks as has BS....

Anonymous said...

while we're playing 7 degrees of separation (only more like 2 degrees because this is politics in Mississippi…): Rachel Allen, Senior Staff Assistant on Gov. Bryant's payroll is sister to Butler Snow's Sidney Allen and rumor has she is going to be joining Kirk Sims on Thad's re-election team… My guess is that Kirk and Caroline are headed to Washington after Thad's campaign ends. She's too well-connected and he's too well-liked. I see them moving up the proverbial politics chain. And I'm betting Lucien Smith will run for another statewide office. (Lucien, Rachel, and Sidney all went to St. Andrew's together too.) Politics is all about connections. It always is but seems more so in Mississippi.

Anonymous said...

7:55 p.m., what basis do you have to allege that the Managing Partner of Butler Snow is about to be indicted for murdering his daughter? I hope you have a strong and legitimate basis to make such a heinous allegation.

KF, I thought you didn't let people on here make an allegation that somebody committed a serious crime without evidence to back it up? By the way, I am a Javkson attorney but have no association with Butler Snow and don't even know who the Managing Partner is.

Anonymous said...

Geeze, next thing you know somebody will be alleging they have their own Vince Foster.

Kingfish said...

The case is going before a grand jury. So yes, its permissible to think he will be indicted. However, the police might also submit it to the grand jury so they can protect themselves in case there is actually no case.

OK, no more Bonner comments on this thread. Period. You had your chance on the recent post about the case.

Anonymous said...

9:44 must be some kinda idiot to say that someone mentioned the MANAGING PARTNER at BS. The man in question is not the managing partner nor is he an attorney at said firm.

Anonymous said...

Chief Operating Officer (COO)

Anonymous said...

You are correct, 10:21 a.m. I said Managing Partner based on the prior commentor's allegation that he was the CEO. The website says COO.

I guess I'm out of the loop, KF, because I had no idea that anybody in the police or the media had identified a suspect or suspects in the case, though I haven't followed the case very much. Who has said that this gentleman is the target of the grand jury investigation?

Kingfish said...

Good point. Could be indicting anyone or no one.

The 8th Horse said...

8:26; Is there no end to your litany of mistakes? He is not a partner, much less a managing one. Nor is another a commentor, but a commenter.

Anonymous said...

8:26 is an idiot. CEO-COO is not the same as a managing partner of a law firm. Then to admit you haven't kept up with the case yet you want to comment makes your stupidity more obvious. Go back to watching Honey Boo Boo. I'm sure you know all the players there.

Anonymous said...

Folks, I'm just going to through this out there, but a lot of this sounds like jealosy to me.

Anonymous said...

I don't think that's it 8:44, I think alot of smart/average people who work hard every day see this crap going on in plain site and it's legitimate resentment for the system working the way it does. The R's are running things now and we're still 50th. I guess we'll become more of a third world nation. The peeps at Butler Snow and lots of others in North Jackson/South Madison/Rankin get to enjoy this while lots all over our state still suffer.



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